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RE: Plains Camp males - Tr1x24 - 03-03-2023
(03-03-2023, 12:30 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Manghenis are spending more and more time in the West, which is common behavior from them, when Majingilanes took the West from Selatis, they also started hanging out there, like if "following" their dominant males.
Dont think Mhangenis are spending more time in western sector now then before PC males, their core was and is Singita.
PC males need to patrol their eastern border (only border, as other sides are fenced) regardless if their prides are in west atm.
RE: Plains Camp males - 1999gc8 - 03-03-2023
RE: Plains Camp males - criollo2mil - 03-05-2023
These boys cover A LOT of ground!!!
RE: Plains Camp males - Tonpa - 03-13-2023
By Quentin Swanevelder
RE: Plains Camp males - Mdz123 - 03-16-2023
RE: Plains Camp males - Mwk85 - 03-22-2023
One of them mating with the older Ximhungwe lioness. Bit of confusion has come to light given that it was believed by some that she was already pregnant. Perhaps she was and lost the litter during pregnancy? Or she just had a full belly in previous sightings? Welcome to the ever changing developments of the Western sector.
Edit: I misidentified the lioness as the younger Ximhungwe lioness (Gingerella). Apologies for the mishap, information has been corrected to show it was actually the older Ximhungwe lioness in the clip.
RE: Plains Camp males - Mapokser - 03-22-2023
Another lost litter due to the chaos there I think.
RE: Plains Camp males - Duco Ndona - 03-22-2023
Who knows. It would be her first litter, just after she began mating for the first time, in a very chaotic environment.
The cubs may have never existed or have died already.
In any case. I wouldn't get my hopes up.
Though if the Ximhungwes start to mate again that may entice the PCmales to spend more time. Which may finally give Skorro and Nym finally the hint they need to move on.
RE: Plains Camp males - Tr1x24 - 03-23-2023
I swear people where claiming numerous times in the past year that Ximhugwes are heavly pregnant, but in the end nothing.
I think that rangers would notice if their resident female lioness is denning.
In that denning period of ~ 2 months, 2 females would not hang together so frequently as they usually are, and they will hang close to denning site, but we didnt see nothing of it.
I doubt cubs would be killed/lost immidiately, without rangers/guides noticing that lioness gave birth.
RE: Plains Camp males - GhostCatP-22 - 03-23-2023
(03-13-2023, 02:16 PM)Tonpa Wrote: By Quentin Swanevelder
What is this suppose to be? It’s not loading for me.
RE: Plains Camp males - BA0701 - 03-23-2023
(03-23-2023, 12:43 AM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote:(03-13-2023, 02:16 PM)Tonpa Wrote: By Quentin Swanevelder
What is this suppose to be? It’s not loading for me.
Seems that it was an Imgur photo/video that has since been deleted by whomever uploaded it there.
RE: Plains Camp males - Xiku_kutsu - 03-23-2023
(03-22-2023, 08:20 PM)Mwk85 Wrote: One of them mating with the younger Ximhungwe lioness (Gingerella). Bit of confusion has come to light given that it was believed by some that she was already pregnant. Perhaps she was and lost the litter during pregnancy? Or she just had a full belly in previous sightings? Welcome to the ever changing developments of the Western sector.
Wow. I know it's been said that lionesses mate with males to distract them from their cubs, or false estrus. But if it's true that these girls haven't been seen denning while obviously not having cubs from previous litters, I'm starting to lean towards another theory I read about that might answer the question about Gingerella maybe losing the litter during pregnancy: the Bruce effect. It's basically where females reabsorb/terminate their pregnancy after encountering new males, and they end up not having to use valuable energy carrying a litter that will more than likely fall to infanticide or even lose their own lives trying to protect their young after giving birth.
Most of the research is on rodents, though I found this stat on female geladas terminating 80% of pregnancies in the weeks after a dominant male is replaced (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1213600). All I could find in lions was this: "quantitative models here and the verbal models that preceded them would predict that the Bruce effect should occur in lions, and indeed demographic evidence indicates that the Bruce effect does occur in lions" (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/am/pii/S0003347219303744). I wish for more concrete evidence on lions though.
This is just a long way of saying the PC males have to get rid of Nkhuma and Tumbela eventually. Maybe these matings will push them to do so.
RE: Plains Camp males - 1999gc8 - 03-24-2023
PC Males having a tug of war with a buffalo calf.
RE: Plains Camp males - Mapokser - 03-25-2023
Btw isn't that female mating the Ximhungwe? She looks way too big to be Gingerella.
RE: Plains Camp males - Mwk85 - 03-25-2023
(03-25-2023, 01:23 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Btw isn't that female mating the Ximhungwe? She looks way too big to be Gingerella.
I believe you're correct. Recently saw another post of the same sighting stating that it was the original Ximhungwe lioness and not Gingerella. Will correct my mistake on my above post.