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RE: Othawa Pride - Duco Ndona - 08-22-2022
Wasnt there an adult lioness they left them with that shortly died after.
RE: Othawa Pride - Tonpa - 08-23-2022
Othawa by Ranger Dan
Looks post-conflict. Some early rib action going on too
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RE: Othawa Pride - Tr1x24 - 08-23-2022
(08-23-2022, 11:03 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Looks post-conflict. Some early rib action going on too
Sassy will get them food, she was their primary hunter anyways with Jr's mom, Aunty because of limp prob was not so usefull in catching pray.
Also, people saying she will struggle to feed them, but now theres 2 less adult females who will take their share and Skorro Jr., who prob eats more then all those subs together.
So yea, they will need less food now without 2 adult female and adult male, but Sassy will need to do all the effort now.
RE: Othawa Pride - Duco Ndona - 08-23-2022
They also probably spend more time hiding or fleeing lately than on securing enough food.
RE: Othawa Pride - Tonpa - 08-23-2022
The issue now will probably not be who gets what share, but more the ability to catch things in the first place without a second lioness to flush the prey into her. Their success rate even as a group is already something really low like 20%
And then losing their kills to Hyenas on top of that.
RE: Othawa Pride - Tr1x24 - 08-23-2022
(08-23-2022, 01:51 PM)Tonpa Wrote: The issue now will probably not be who gets what share, but more the ability to catch things in the first place without a second lioness to flush the prey into her. Their success rate even as a group is already something really low like 20%
And then losing their kills to Hyenas on top of that.
Well, Sassy would need to inheritate different style of hunting now, but as a prime and experienced lioness, she shouldn't have problems catching pray, when we saw younger, ~ 3 yrs old and inexperienced lionesses like Gingerella and Tsalala hunting for themselves without any problem.
Also, in few months these subs will start to participate in hunts anyways.
Biggest problems for them are other group of lions, as they are now by far the weakest group in the area, even Gingerella and Ximhungwe can easily out muscle them now, let alone Mhangenis or males.
RE: Othawa Pride - Bellateda - 08-23-2022
Quote:Biggest problems for them are other group of lions, as they are now by far the weakest group in the area, even Gingerella and Ximhungwe can easily out muscle them now, let alone Mhangenis or males.
Off-topic:
Leopards: weight three times less than lions, start hunting on their own at around 15-18 months old.
Tigers: become independent at 17-24 months.
Lions at 16-18 months: reach the size of an average adult leopard. Five of them can't even roar at hyenas and protect their prey. Can't catch even a small gazelle.
Something is really wrong with lion developement. They are helpless for far too long.
Ottawas need to leave this area and move to the east or to the north. This is not their territory anymore.
RE: Othawa Pride - Horizon - 08-23-2022
(08-23-2022, 11:53 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(08-23-2022, 11:03 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Looks post-conflict. Some early rib action going on too
Sassy will get them food, she was their primary hunter anyways with Jr's mom, Aunty because of limp prob was not so usefull in catching pray.
Also, people saying she will struggle to feed them, but now theres 2 less adult females who will take their share and Skorro Jr., who prob eats more then all those subs together.
So yea, they will need less food now without 2 adult female and adult male, but Sassy will need to do all the effort now.
The last thing this beleaguered pride now wants is this…Skorro Jr to reappear and eat their food.
I believe there is a fair chance they would survive. The young ones look in good condition to travel long distances. Hope they don’t get caught out in a surprise attack.
RE: Othawa Pride - criollo2mil - 08-23-2022
Seems the Othowas are back in the Dulini traversing areas. All 5 cubs accounted for and a Scarred Sassy leading them
https://instagram.com/stories/dulinilodge/2911165923268766240?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=Y2ZmNzg0YzQ=[
RE: Othawa Pride - Mabingilane - 08-23-2022
I haven't been around for a few days due to the news. This hit just as hard (or harder) as the Othawa Male's death had hit me.
The Othawa, Nkuhuma and Tsalala Pan were the first prides i heard about and started following in SS back in 2009.
I remember those two Othawa females as sub adults and it very much hurts to see both JR's Mom & Auntie both gone within 3 Weeks. What a twist of fate that i still cannot fully come to terms with.
If Nhenha & Nkuhuma male were responsible as alleged, then Nhenha is partly responsible for taking out Othawa male as well as his two Aunts.
I truly wish Sassy and the older females had welcomed back Ginger's & Sassy's Daughter. Then Sassy would not be alone right now.
RE: Othawa Pride - BA0701 - 08-23-2022
(08-23-2022, 07:50 PM)Mabingilane Wrote: I haven't been around for a few days due to the news. This hit just as hard (or harder) as the Othawa Male's death had hit me.
The Othawa, Nkuhuma and Tsalala Pan were the first prides i heard about and started following in SS back in 2009.
I remember those two Othawa females as sub adults and it very much hurts to see both JR's Mom & Auntie both gone within 3 Weeks. What a twist of fate that i still cannot fully come to terms with.
If Nhenha & Nkuhuma male were responsible as alleged, then Nhenha is partly responsible for taking out Othawa male as well as his two Aunts.
I truly wish Sassy and the older females had welcomed back Ginger's & Sassy's Daughter. Then Sassy would not be alone right now.
You're not alone my friend, I believe there are a lot of folks here who feel the exact same way.
RE: Othawa Pride - Bellateda - 08-24-2022
The worst that can happen is if Sassy is wounded or killed and these subs are left alone being helpless.
RE: Othawa Pride - Tonpa - 08-25-2022
Interesting, the Mhangeni Pride (core) made a warthog kill which the Othawas managed to steal
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RE: Othawa Pride - Tr1x24 - 08-25-2022
(08-25-2022, 12:55 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Interesting, the Mhangeni Pride (core) made a warthog kill which the Othawas managed to steal
Luckly for Othawas that Mhangenis are not territorial and dont want to have buisness with any other lion groups, even if its only 1 adult female there.
RE: Othawa Pride - Horizon - 08-25-2022
They might have seen numbers but didn’t see them closely enough.