(06-23-2014, 02:05 PM)'Apollo' Wrote: Huge tiger feeding on water buffalo

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(06-26-2014, 09:11 PM)'Pantherinae' Wrote: Thank you all for shareing all these great images of tigers with impressive prey! 

But I have one thing to say, i strongly doubt that tigers will kill adult rhinos and elephants. 
Don't get all lion fanatic because I'm having a picture of a lion it could as well have been a tiger, leopard or a jaguar  [img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img] 

It only seems so wierd because for first: a tiger lacks stamina to kill such a big pray, a male lion used 22 hr on a bull buffalo, and I know how thick the skinn is of a indian rhino is along with it's massive size! 
Second: I have seen a whole lion pride been chased by a black rhino which is almost twice as small! And withe rhinos are absolutley out of limit for lions! So it seems so wierd that a cat only slightly bigger (atlest those i have seen in bandavgarh compared to those in Kruger) could kill a rhino alone! It makes no sense to me! 
Thrid: if rhinos where huntetd by tigers i think the evelution would have made them different! A large heavy animal living in the open with lost of tall grass where the tiger could ambush them easyly and beeing so slow compared to the tigers! Look at other large prey killed by lions/tigers buffalos and gaur living in heards, and male buffalos living in smaller groups and defend each other. To mee it would strange!  


 

 

6-26-2014'Pckts dateline='' Wrote:

'Pantherinae dateline='' Wrote: Thank you all for shareing all these great images of tigers with impressive prey! 

But I have one thing to say, i strongly doubt that tigers will kill adult rhinos and åelephants. 
Don't get all lion fanatic because I'm having a picture of a lion it could as well have been a tiger, leopard or a jaguar  [img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img] 

It only seems so wierd because for first: a tiger lacks stamina to kill such a big pray, a male lion used 22 hr on a bull buffalo, and I know how thick the skinn is of a indian rhino is along with it's massive size! 
Second: I have seen a whole lion pride been chased by a black rhino which is almost twice as small! And withe rhinos are absolutley out of limit for lions! So it seems so wierd that a cat only slightly bigger (atlest those i have seen in bandavgarh compared to those in Kruger) could kill a rhino alone! It makes no sense to me! 
Thrid: if rhinos where huntetd by tigers i think the evelution would have made them different! A large heavy animal living in the open with lost of tall grass where the tiger could ambush them easyly and beeing so slow compared to the tigers! Look at other large prey killed by lions/tigers buffalos and gaur living in heards, and male buffalos living in smaller groups and defend each other. To mee it would strange!  


 


 

Heres the thing. There are eye witnessed accounts, ranger accounts, rhino rehabilitation accounts, sanctuary accounts, and the list goes on.
You denying it, is the real question? You don't want us to think of you as a fanatic, but yet you say every single account or eye witness is a liar? Comparing a lion to a tiger in the hunting category is also pointless. Tigers are different animals, live completely different lifestyles and have adapted to what best suits it. Skull differences, terrain differences, morphological differences, etc.... 

Btw, I have yet to see a single account that shows a lone male lion killing a bull buffalo, but if you have something, I would love to  

(06-26-2014, 10:54 PM)'Pantherinae' Wrote:

6-26-2014'Pckts dateline='' Wrote:

'Pantherinae dateline='' Wrote: Thank you all for shareing all these great images of tigers with impressive prey! 

But I have one thing to say, i strongly doubt that tigers will kill adult rhinos and åelephants. 
Don't get all lion fanatic because I'm having a picture of a lion it could as well have been a tiger, leopard or a jaguar  [img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img] 

It only seems so wierd because for first: a tiger lacks stamina to kill such a big pray, a male lion used 22 hr on a bull buffalo, and I know how thick the skinn is of a indian rhino is along with it's massive size! 
Second: I have seen a whole lion pride been chased by a black rhino which is almost twice as small! And withe rhinos are absolutley out of limit for lions! So it seems so wierd that a cat only slightly bigger (atlest those i have seen in bandavgarh compared to those in Kruger) could kill a rhino alone! It makes no sense to me! 
Thrid: if rhinos where huntetd by tigers i think the evelution would have made them different! A large heavy animal living in the open with lost of tall grass where the tiger could ambush them easyly and beeing so slow compared to the tigers! Look at other large prey killed by lions/tigers buffalos and gaur living in heards, and male buffalos living in smaller groups and defend each other. To mee it would strange!  


 



 

Heres the thing. There are eye witnessed accounts, ranger accounts, rhino rehabilitation accounts, sanctuary accounts, and the list goes on.
You denying it, is the real question? You don't want us to think of you as a fanatic, but yet you say every single account or eye witness is a liar? Comparing a lion to a tiger in the hunting category is also pointless. Tigers are different animals, live completely different lifestyles and have adapted to what best suits it. Skull differences, terrain differences, morphological differences, etc.... 

Btw, I have yet to see a single account that shows a lone male lion killing a bull buffalo, but if you have something, I would love to  

  It's not about beeing a fanatic at all, I'm beeing realistic and you dosent, i did say whole lion prides where chased by a black rhinllllo, and did never say a lion could do such a thing as killing a rhino! And again a whole lion pride are capable of killing much bigger prey than a single tiger start beeing realistic. And why do I have to be a fanatic for not trust raports from rangers! have you sen the rhino ithe three male tigers in kaziranga eats?first time I did see those pictures one ranger said that it had been killed by a tiger, a feild vet said it was dead because of natural reasons probably age or lightning! also quite ignorant of you to say a lone male lion can't be compared to a male tiger.. they are almost the same either you like it or not! also i will try to find some pictures or videos of lions killing buffalo bulls! and you can find some of male tigers killing gaur? please again I'm no fanatic, you can't have an opinion without beeing a fanatic! to be honest i do actually like mayby leopards the most! but lions and tigers are more intersting to look at in pictures. 

 

'Pckts dateline='' Wrote:

'Pantherinae dateline='' Wrote:

6-26-2014'Pckts dateline='' Wrote:

'Pantherinae dateline='' Wrote: Thank you all for shareing all these great images of tigers with impressive prey! 

But I have one thing to say, i strongly doubt that tigers will kill adult rhinos and åelephants. 
Don't get all lion fanatic because I'm having a picture of a lion it could as well have been a tiger, leopard or a jaguar  [img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img] 

It only seems so wierd because for first: a tiger lacks stamina to kill such a big pray, a male lion used 22 hr on a bull buffalo, and I know how thick the skinn is of a indian rhino is along with it's massive size! 
Second: I have seen a whole lion pride been chased bym a black rhino which is almost twice as small! And withe rhinos are absolutley out of limit for lions! So it seems so wierd that a cat only slightly bigger (atlest those i have seen in bandavgarh compared to those in Kruger) could kill a rhino alone! It makes no sense to me! 
Thrid: if rhinos where huntetd by tigers i think the evelution would have made them different! A large heavy animal living in the open with lost of tall grass where the tiger could ambush them easyly and beeing so slow compared to the tigers! Look at other large prey killed by lions/tigers buffalos and gaur living in heards, and male buffalos living in smaller groups and defend each other. To mee it would strange!  


 




 

Heres the thing. There are eye witnessed accounts, ranger accounts, rhino rehabilitation accounts, sanctuary accounts, and the list goes on.
You denying it, is the real question? You don't want us to think of you as a fanatic, but yet you say every single account or eye witness is a liar? Comparing a lion to a tiger in the hunting category is also pointless. Tigers are different animals, live completely different lifestyles and have adapted to what best suits it. Skull differences, terrain differences, morphological differences, etc.... 

Btw, I have yet to see a single account that shows a lone male lion killing a bull buffalo, but if you have something, I would love to  

  It's not about beeing a fanatic at all, I'm beeing realistic and you dosent, i did say whole lion prides where chased by a black rhinllllo, and did never say a lion could do such a thing as killing a rhino! And again a whole lion pride are capable of killing much bigger prey than a single tiger start beeing realistic. And why do I have to be a fanatic for not trust raports from rangers! have you sen the rhino ithe three male tigers in kaziranga eats?first time I did see those pictures one ranger said that it had been killed by a tiger, a feild vet said it was dead because of natural reasons probably age or lightning! also quite ignorant of you to say a lone male lion can't be compared to a male tiger.. they are almost the same either you like it or not! also i will try to find some pictures or videos of lions killing buffalo bulls! and you can find some of male tigers killing gaur? please again I'm no fanatic, you can't have an opinion without beeing a fanatic! to be honest i do actually like mayby leopards the most! but lions and tigers are more intersting to look at in pictures. 


 

Could you go to ava forums or any where, and check out tiger predation on elephants and rhinos. Then could you present the ones you find? Present the ones your skeptical on?

You name one report and try to quote it as the onle and only rule.
Strange you don't show this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY4C_hxFNXE
Here you see a follow and attack a mother rhino and kill her cub. So its pretty obvious that tigers attack Rhino adults or babies. Any way, I still would like to see you present what you find and why your skeptical, if you're up for it?

 

 

(06-27-2014, 10:53 PM)'Pantherinae' Wrote:

'Pckts dateline='' Wrote:

'Pantherinae dateline='' Wrote:

6-26-2014'Pckts dateline='' Wrote:

'Pantherinae dateline='' Wrote: Thank you all for shareing all these great images of tigers with impressive prey! 

But I have one thing to say, i strongly doubt that tigers will kill adult rhinos and åelephants. 
Don't get all lion fanatic because I'm having a picture of a lion it could as well have been a tiger, leopard or a jaguar  [img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img] 

It only seems so wierd because for first: a tiger lacks stamina to kill such a big pray, a male lion used 22 hr on a bull buffalo, and I know how thick the skinn is of a indian rhino is along with it's massive size! 
Second: I have seen a whole lion pride been chased bym a black rhino which is almost twice as small! And withe rhinos are absolutley out of limit for lions! So it seems so wierd that a cat only slightly bigger (atlest those i have seen in bandavgarh compared to those in Kruger) could kill a rhino alone! It makes no sense to me! 
Thrid: if rhinos where huntetd by tigers i think the evelution would have made them different! A large heavy animal living in the open with lost of tall grass where the tiger could ambush them easyly and beeing so slow compared to the tigers! Look at other large prey killed by lions/tigers buffalos and gaur living in heards, and male buffalos living in smaller groups and defend each other. To mee it would strange!  


 





 

Heres the thing. There are eye witnessed accounts, ranger accounts, rhino rehabilitation accounts, sanctuary accounts, and the list goes on.
You denying it, is the real question? You don't want us to think of you as a fanatic, but yet you say every single account or eye witness is a liar? Comparing a lion to a tiger in the hunting category is also pointless. Tigers are different animals, live completely different lifestyles and have adapted to what best suits it. Skull differences, terrain differences, morphological differences, etc.... 

Btw, I have yet to see a single account that shows a lone male lion killing a bull buffalo, but if you have something, I would love to  

  It's not about beeing a fanatic at all, I'm beeing realistic and you dosent, i did say whole lion prides where chased by a black rhinllllo, and did never say a lion could do such a thing as killing a rhino! And again a whole lion pride are capable of killing much bigger prey than a single tiger start beeing realistic. And why do I have to be a fanatic for not trust raports from rangers! have you sen the rhino ithe three male tigers in kaziranga eats?first time I did see those pictures one ranger said that it had been killed by a tiger, a feild vet said it was dead because of natural reasons probably age or lightning! also quite ignorant of you to say a lone male lion can't be compared to a male tiger.. they are almost the same either you like it or not! also i will try to find some pictures or videos of lions killing buffalo bulls! and you can find some of male tigers killing gaur? please again I'm no fanatic, you can't have an opinion without beeing a fanatic! to be honest i do actually like mayby leopards the most! but lions and tigers are more intersting to look at in pictures. 



 

Could you go to ava forums or any where, and check out tiger predation on elephants and rhinos. Then could you present the ones you find? Present the ones your skeptical on?

You name one report and try to quote it as the onle and only rule.
Strange you don't show this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY4C_hxFNXE
Here you see a follow and attack a mother rhino and kill her cub. So its pretty obvious that tigers attack Rhino adults or babies. Any way, I still would like to see you present what you find and why your skeptical, if you're up for it?

 


 

Hi again, I've read all those, and it's not about the article's, but the lack of photo veiene! Maybe it's only me, but I nede photo veiene, and you can neiather never know about national geograpich much of their work is storby bord, and those injuries on the moter looks like bites from another rhino! And the thing is ( not taking anything away from the tiger they are the biggest and strongest cat) but a tiger could IMO never have done something like this, they are too small compared to the rhino. Even not the biggest bears could have killed them, tigers do as all Cat's have a poor stamina, even porer than those of the lions. Tigers they are long compared tho lions teeth's, and brekkstang more easily! And the rhino has the thickest skinny of all land mammas! Too me all this makes it almost impossible for a single cat to do this!