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RE: Avoca male lions - Tonpa - 08-27-2022
Dark Mane by a guest in the north, her other stories show the PCM.
By Carmen_katsapas
*This image is copyright of its original author
RE: Avoca male lions - afortich - 08-27-2022
(08-27-2022, 12:28 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Dark Mane by a guest in the north, her other stories show the PCM.
By Carmen_katsapas
*This image is copyright of its original author
Hopefully, DM does not bump into the PC boys
RE: Avoca male lions - T I N O - 08-27-2022
(08-27-2022, 12:28 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Dark Mane by a guest in the north, her other stories show the PCM.Hope he don't meet to the Plains Camp males. Otherwise, he won't have a good time. It’s incredible how age has catch up to DM. His recent injuries and limps made him lost a lot of mane and condition as well, reminds me a lot to Brutus in his old days
By Carmen_katsapas
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RE: Avoca male lions - sik94 - 08-27-2022
(08-27-2022, 12:28 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Dark Mane by a guest in the north, her other stories show the PCM.
By Carmen_katsapas
*This image is copyright of its original author
The recent injuries he got from probably other lions has took him back to the place he was a few months ago before the back and forth with Audi S8. lol.
RE: Avoca male lions - WildLeonis - 08-27-2022
(08-27-2022, 01:01 AM)afortich Wrote:(08-27-2022, 12:28 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Dark Mane by a guest in the north, her other stories show the PCM.
By Carmen_katsapas
Hopefully, DM does not bump into PC boys
According to the Londolozi blog, him and the Talamatis nearly running into the PC Males was a very close call. Good he got away as well as the Talamatis as the PC Males are not known to be welcoming to unknown females. DM really has done a great job at walking the line. Luck has been a big factor in him continuing on as well. I don’t know how long he’ll be able to keep this up before his luck runs out, but I hope it’s for a while to come.
(08-27-2022, 01:46 AM)Timbavati Wrote:(08-27-2022, 12:28 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Dark Mane by a guest in the north, her other stories show the PCM.Hope he don't meet to the Plains Camp males. Otherwise, he won't have a good time. It’s incredible how age has catch up to DM. His recent injuries and limps made him lost a lot of mane and condition as well, reminds me a lot to Brutus in his old days
By Carmen_katsapas
James Hendry often commented that he believed DM was older than Blondie and Mohawk due to his size and dark mane when the Avocas first arrived in Djuma. If true, I don’t know how much of an age gap there is in lion years, if any, when lions are born a few weeks or a month or two apart. That said, DM’s condition and age seemed to decline within 3-6 months. This time last year he was still very impressive, had a beautiful big mane, body in great condition, despite the limp, was still scent marking and roaring. But by the time November/December rolled around he was starting to show some decline. It’s been up and down for him ever since, but more down than up it seems. I do wonder sometimes if he has an unknown illness because even when he manages to stay well fed he can’t seem to gain back the body mass he had late last year. I also wonder how he’d be fairing if he was still in a coalition with his northern brothers? Perhaps significantly better than he is fairing now.
RE: Avoca male lions - Tr1x24 - 08-27-2022
(08-27-2022, 05:22 AM)WildLeonis Wrote: James Hendry often commented that he believed DM was older than Blondie and Mohawk due to his size and dark mane when the Avocas first arrived in Djuma. If true, I don’t know how much of an age gap there is in lion years, if any, when lions are born a few weeks or a month or two apart. That said, DM’s condition and age seemed to decline within 3-6 months. This time last year he was still very impressive, had a beautiful big mane, body in great condition, despite the limp, was still scent marking and roaring. But by the time November/December rolled around he was starting to show some decline. It’s been up and down for him ever since, but more down than up it seems. I do wonder sometimes if he has an unknown illness because even when he manages to stay well fed he can’t seem to gain back the body mass he had late last year. I also wonder how he’d be fairing if he was still in a coalition with his northern brothers? Perhaps significantly better than he is fairing now.
Just like in humans, animals also dont age the same, some peak earlier then others.
DM is over 9 yrs old, 9-10 yrs is average lifespan of wild male lion.
Also, semi-nomadic life took its tool, since he lost his territory last year, and went on roam thru Sabi Sands his condition start to deterioate.
RE: Avoca male lions - afortich - 08-27-2022
(08-27-2022, 05:22 AM)WildLeonis Wrote:(08-27-2022, 01:01 AM)afortich Wrote:(08-27-2022, 12:28 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Dark Mane by a guest in the north, her other stories show the PCM.
By Carmen_katsapas
Hopefully, DM does not bump into PC boys
According to the Londolozi blog, him and the Talamatis nearly running into the PC Males was a very close call. Good he got away as well as the Talamatis as the PC Males are not known to be welcoming to unknown females. DM really has done a great job at walking the line. Luck has been a big factor in him continuing on as well. I don’t know how long he’ll be able to keep this up before his luck runs out, but I hope it’s for a while to come.
(08-27-2022, 01:46 AM)Timbavati Wrote:(08-27-2022, 12:28 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Dark Mane by a guest in the north, her other stories show the PCM.Hope he don't meet to the Plains Camp males. Otherwise, he won't have a good time. It’s incredible how age has catch up to DM. His recent injuries and limps made him lost a lot of mane and condition as well, reminds me a lot to Brutus in his old days
By Carmen_katsapas
James Hendry often commented that he believed DM was older than Blondie and Mohawk due to his size and dark mane when the Avocas first arrived in Djuma. If true, I don’t know how much of an age gap there is in lion years, if any, when lions are born a few weeks or a month or two apart. That said, DM’s condition and age seemed to decline within 3-6 months. This time last year he was still very impressive, had a beautiful big mane, body in great condition, despite the limp, was still scent marking and roaring. But by the time November/December rolled around he was starting to show some decline. It’s been up and down for him ever since, but more down than up it seems. I do wonder sometimes if he has an unknown illness because even when he manages to stay well fed he can’t seem to gain back the body mass he had late last year. I also wonder how he’d be fairing if he was still in a coalition with his northern brothers? Perhaps significantly better than he is fairing now.
I believe that his problems, for the most part, is lacking a coalition partner.
I agree with you in that if DM got a partner, he probably be in a better position overall.
Hopefully his good luck continues, as you said, and maybe his oldest talamati boy start to give him a hand/paw.
RE: Avoca male lions - sik94 - 08-27-2022
(08-27-2022, 05:30 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(08-27-2022, 05:22 AM)WildLeonis Wrote: James Hendry often commented that he believed DM was older than Blondie and Mohawk due to his size and dark mane when the Avocas first arrived in Djuma. If true, I don’t know how much of an age gap there is in lion years, if any, when lions are born a few weeks or a month or two apart. That said, DM’s condition and age seemed to decline within 3-6 months. This time last year he was still very impressive, had a beautiful big mane, body in great condition, despite the limp, was still scent marking and roaring. But by the time November/December rolled around he was starting to show some decline. It’s been up and down for him ever since, but more down than up it seems. I do wonder sometimes if he has an unknown illness because even when he manages to stay well fed he can’t seem to gain back the body mass he had late last year. I also wonder how he’d be fairing if he was still in a coalition with his northern brothers? Perhaps significantly better than he is fairing now.
Just like in humans, animals also dont age the same, some peak earlier then others.
DM is over 9 yrs old, 9-10 yrs is average lifespan of wild male lion.
Also, semi-nomadic life took its tool, since he lost his territory last year, and went on roam thru Sabi Sands his condition start to deterioate.
I don't think DM is aging any quicker than the average lion. That injury really hurt him, I saw a clip of S8 on the djuma cam and I really noticed how different his movement was compared to DM. There was such fluidity and effortlessness in his movement, just oozing confidence. DM has nowhere near the mobility of a healthy lion, and it shows. He can't hunt for himself basically, that's a lot of meals he just doesn't get.
RE: Avoca male lions - WildLeonis - 08-28-2022
Mohawk with Nkuhumas at watering hole. Twin Dams. Then Blondie alone napping. They all look well fed. Mohawk is so impressive. The older he gets the better he looks.
RE: Avoca male lions - Tonpa - 08-28-2022
Mohawk at Nkorho last night. He came from the west and was looking east/north east at something catching his attention. Unfortunately the mic on the cam is busted so we couldn't hear. Eventually he went north into the drainage line towards Torchwood property.
RE: Avoca male lions - Tonpa - 08-31-2022
Dark Mane, skinny and a lot of bite marks now. Think he's coming to the end of his journey.
By Debbie Lea Fendick
RE: Avoca male lions - sik94 - 08-31-2022
(08-31-2022, 10:43 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Dark Mane, skinny and a lot of bite marks now. Think he's coming to the end of his journey.
By Debbie Lea Fendick
His movement actually looks normal for him, hopefully gets a meal soon.
RE: Avoca male lions - BigLion39 - 08-31-2022
Could have sworn i saw a pic of him from this exact walk a few weeks ago. Maybe I'm wrong but isn't this not a too rescent video?
RE: Avoca male lions - Tonpa - 08-31-2022
(08-31-2022, 12:15 PM)BigLion39 Wrote: Could have sworn i saw a pic of him from this exact walk a few weeks ago. Maybe I'm wrong but isn't this not a too rescent video?
Apparently from yesterday on arathusa
RE: Avoca male lions - WildLeonis - 08-31-2022
He could definitely use a meal. But I think those bite marks are from a few weeks ago. They don’t look fresh to me. In spite of everything he’s walking pretty good to me.