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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - T_Ferguson - 06-08-2024 (06-08-2024, 04:15 PM)NLAL11 Wrote:(06-08-2024, 02:22 PM)Mwk85 Wrote: Great to see some news on them Sounds like a Sabi story we've seen before..... RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Cath2020 - 06-08-2024 I think at least 3 S. Avoca Daughters are with the core pride now.... So, that makes at least 7 subs that are alive. RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - afortich - 06-08-2024 Summary 6.8.24. Mohawk with Nkuhuma pride, Monwana breakaway pride, Sand river youngster boys, Kambulas with sister and S. BDM in Thornybush. RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Cath2020 - 06-09-2024 How far is Thornybush from where he and his bro. were staying? It's awful that he's going to be alone now and has to take the arduous task of bonding with another potentially unrelated male. NK Male is still can't quite do it, so apparently not all lone males can form lifelong, tight bonds enough to form a coalition and take over a pride. We've had success stories though.... The Maputo Coalition is taking off nowadays! The Maputo Male has chosen well. Lest we forget the unforgettable stories of unrelated males: Hercules/Sumatra, Thandi Impi, the Orpens (even though theirs was cut short...but they had offspring between them reach adulthood). Any other unrelated success stories I forgot or don't know of? RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Cath2020 - 06-09-2024 By the way, last I noticed, the oldest Sand River Pride lioness seems to be missing. Now, the matriarchs are the 2 Mantemahle Daughters, plus the other S. Avoca ones. That lioness was the one whose cub was killed by Snip Tail. I didn't think she was too old to just disappear. Maybe she was killed while protecting some of the subs and nobody saw it happen.... RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - KM600 - 06-09-2024 (06-09-2024, 12:43 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: Lest we forget the unforgettable stories of unrelated males: Hercules/Sumatra, Thandi Impi, the Orpens (even though theirs was cut short...but they had offspring between them reach adulthood). Any other unrelated success stories I forgot or don't know of? Cecil and Jericho from Hwange, Zimbabwe. From the book I’ve read, Cecil and his brother Leander had come into contact with Jericho and his 3 other brothers (one of them could have actually been misidentified as his father). Cecil had fatally injured one of his rivals and his rivals fatally injured Leander. Two of Jerichos brothers were poached leaving him all alone. Him and Cecil disappeared for a year and when spotted again, they had joined together and were dominant males of a big pride. Cecil was eventually poached himself by an American dentist and Jericho died of natural causes. RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - NLAL11 - 06-09-2024 Elephant Plains weekly lion sightings 3-9 June. https://elephantplains.co.za/big-5-blog/2024/06/weekly-big-5-sightings-3-9-june-2024/ Monday, 3 June 2024
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It's been a quite week on Djuma for viewings of the Nkuhuma pride, and they seem to be pretty scattered. The Plains Camp males have been spotted multiple times now in the same sighting as the sub male. It's also starting to look like this is more than just a fling for the PC males. I'm not sure where 'Bushcamp West' is, but it might be that the Nkuhumas are already shifting their territory a bit west. RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - BigLion39 - 06-11-2024 (06-09-2024, 01:10 AM)KM600 Wrote: Cecil and Jericho from Hwange, Zimbabwe. From the book I’ve read, Cecil and his brother Leander had come into contact with Jericho and his 3 other brothers (one of them could have actually been misidentified as his father). Cecil had fatally injured one of his rivals and his rivals fatally injured Leander. Two of Jerichos brothers were poached leaving him all alone. Him and Cecil disappeared for a year and when spotted again, they had joined together and were dominant males of a big pride. Cecil was eventually poached himself by an American dentist and Jericho died of natural causes Bob Jr and the late Trygvve. 2 unrelated males who everybody mistakes the late Trygvve as being Bob Jrs real brother. RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - BA0701 - 06-11-2024 (06-11-2024, 02:29 PM)BigLion39 Wrote:(06-09-2024, 01:10 AM)KM600 Wrote: Cecil and Jericho from Hwange, Zimbabwe. From the book I’ve read, Cecil and his brother Leander had come into contact with Jericho and his 3 other brothers (one of them could have actually been misidentified as his father). Cecil had fatally injured one of his rivals and his rivals fatally injured Leander. Two of Jerichos brothers were poached leaving him all alone. Him and Cecil disappeared for a year and when spotted again, they had joined together and were dominant males of a big pride. Cecil was eventually poached himself by an American dentist and Jericho died of natural causes I actually thought they were real brothers, they were tight enough to be, and looked almost identical. RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - criollo2mil - 06-11-2024 Sabi Sabi Blog remarking on the resurgence of the Selati/Southern Pride of Sabi Sand. Just a few years ago, this Pride was on the brink of extinction down to a single young Female, Daugther of the Fourways Males. Today, the Pride now stands at TEN members all linked to her lineage. Two of the cubs belong to her and now both of her Dughters sired by Ndzengas are mothers of themselves with 5 cubs between them A great story for a change! https://www.sabisabi.com/discover/topics/comeback-of-the-southern-pride Comeback of the Southern PrideON JUN 11, 2024 Lion dynamics and prides across our reserve is never ending, with social structures changing from time to time and males coming through, yet the Gijima males have been very successful the last 18 months in securing their territory and ensuring a haven for their female prides. One of these prides that have been very successful is the Southern Pride. With years of hard luck for them and the bloodline relying on only one lioness, she has made all the difference. Roughly three years ago the Southern Pride lioness gave birth to two lionesses who she raised by herself, ensuring safety and enough nutrients and food for them. She did not stop here and later gave birth to three more cubs, which were two females and one male. Sadly, over time the one male cub was killed by younger males who moved through the area, but nevertheless the two young females managed to survive. About four months ago we were spoiled by finding out one of the eldest daughters had given birth to three little ones which brought the pride numbers back up to eight. Cubs at this young age are still very vulnerable and only time will tell if all three of them will survive, but this is creating exciting thoughts for the Southern Pride again. Over the next couple of months, they will be facing many obstacles and tough times that they will have to overcome as a pride by working together and ensuring each member of the pride brings their side to ensure a successful group. About a week ago we set out on a game drive from Earth Lodge and shortly after leaving the lodge we found tracks of lions and we immediately thought of the Southern Pride. After a very short and easy tracking exercise we found the main lioness with her two younger females walking down the road. We followed them for a fair amount of time when we started hearing the contact call of another lioness. We switched the vehicle off to avoid having any unnecessary influence and allowed the beauty of nature to take place in front of us. The contact calling got closer as the main lioness was responding constantly and we watched them reunite. They slowly continued moving deeper into a thicket as the temperature was rising, on the lookout for a comfortable and safe spot to spend the day. After leaving them we continued our drive and found tracks where the whole pride, including the three little ones, crossed into our reserve, immediately making us aware that all eight of them were on our reserve somewhere. We started backtracking until we found where the pride split up during the evening and continued tracking the tracks of the cubs. This is always a very challenging experience as they are often playing around and running in all directions, so my tracker (Donald) and I were really put to the test, but because we both pride ourselves in finishing a job we started…finding these little ones. After numerous times of jumping in and out the vehicle, the tracks led us towards a small rocky outcrop which got us excited immediately. We got to the outcrop and started scouting when the movement caught our eyes, the three young ones!! But what we found next was completely unexpected. We repositioned ourselves and as we switched the vehicle off to watch them something incredibly special appeared... two tiny cubs, around 6-8 weeks old, appeared. They were inquisitive as to what was going on around them. The second female from the eldest daughters had also given birth and suddenly, we were surrounded by FIVE cubs, increasing the Southern Prides numbers to ten! We kept our distance and allowed them to settle in our presence. Shortly after, they started moving around from one rock to the next as they were basking in the morning sun warming their little bodies after a cold winter’s evening. We could hear how the smallest two cubs were calling and suddenly, the adult lioness appeared on top of one of the big rocks, keeping a close eye on why the little ones were calling for her. The cubs all made their way towards the lioness, desperately trying to get on top of the rock she was resting on but with no success. They accepted that they were still too small and weak to make the jump and rested below the lioness, absorbing the warmth from the morning sun. This is incredibly special news for us as the Southern Pride is one of the favourites around our reserve and definitely one of the most difficult prides to track as they are very active and don’t spend much time in the same area. On a separate occasion, about four days later, we once again found tracks just outside of Earth Lodge. We started tracking when Donald and I jumped off the vehicle to have a closer look and found the remains of a small buffalo kill that they had made and found tracks heading straight towards a waterhole nearby. As made our way around, we found the pride resting next to the water patiently waiting for the sun to rise so they can warm up their bodies. As the temperature started rising, they made their way further south into our reserve to find a comfortable spot to spend their day. This pride has gone from one lone lioness up to three, then up to six whereafter it dropped back down to five, then the numbers climbed again to eight and then once again climbed to ten to what it is today. Is this the beginning of the once dominant Southern Pride? Only time will tell, but one thing is for sure, these females are not playing around, and they have an extremely close bond with one another. Blog by Ruan Mey (Earth Lodge Ranger) RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Rabubi - 06-11-2024 (06-11-2024, 09:07 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: Sabi Sabi Blog remarking on the resurgence of the Selati/Southern Pride of Sabi Sand. A wonderful comeback story, fingers crossed for the Othawa, Ximungwe and Tsalala prides to enjoy the same fortunes. I don't know if it's just me but it seems that most, if not all, cubs sired by the Gijimas have darker fur compared to other cubs. As if they just got out of water. RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - afortich - 06-11-2024 (06-11-2024, 11:01 PM)Rabubi Wrote:(06-11-2024, 09:07 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: Sabi Sabi Blog remarking on the resurgence of the Selati/Southern Pride of Sabi Sand. They defnitely look darker to me as well bro. RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Ngonya - 06-11-2024 there is a puddle right behind them, they are definitely wet/dirty RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Go131810 - 06-12-2024 (06-11-2024, 11:01 PM)Rabubi Wrote:Hi I would also like to say nobody know what will happen, but hopefully the Styxt lionesses could enjoy a bond like the Southern pride. Also the Othowa pride is doing ok there is two young lionesses but there is also Gingerella. I know Gingerella is with the Ximunguwe lioness, but she has no cubs hopefully she can still have cubs. The two cubs are from Gingerella. The Tslala lioness I saw she recently had cubs. Talking about this has made me think. It has made me think of the Sparta pride, Tslala, and the Charleston male lions, and the Raverscourt pride. When prides split I have seen their are renamed to breakaway or they have split and their pride name changes depending on their location. I think of the Tsalala pride where the Mapogo daughters are and their daughters are now, and now the Kambula lioness daughters of the Birminghams but their daughters stayed with one of the mother Kambula lionesses. The lone Tslala lioness is the only Tslala lioness, but is because she stayed with her mother that had stayed with the Tslalala lioness. Right now they are different family’s and lioness, but similar since they are also daughters of the Birmingham’s and have the same grandparents. The Tsalala lioness with her two sub adults are now different family’s from the other 4 but they changed the name based on their location?also the Charleston lionesses was the last lioness that helped raised the two Charleston male lions but they were successful and have young male lion sons in Sabi Sands. The Spart pride; I read one time they split and some lioness went into Kruger is that true?(06-11-2024, 09:07 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: Sabi Sabi Blog remarking on the resurgence of the Selati/Southern Pride of Sabi Sand. RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Duco Ndona - 06-12-2024 Its probably just a trick of the light as the lioness also looks darker. I also find it hard to believe that a cat would roll around in a muddy puddle. Though if there are more photos to back it up. Its not too outlandish to believe. I am not familiar with the Sparta pride. But the last surviving lioness went into Kruger I recall where she then soon perished due to being to young to survive on her own. |