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RE: The Birmingham Males - Tshokwane - 11-05-2018
(11-05-2018, 04:52 PM)Raj8143 Wrote: did they killed the avoca male ?
Very evidently no, as we're posting about them regularly in the lions of sabi sands thread, and the Birmingham males left the area, they didn't really fight for it.
I can see you're very obsessed about this, Raj.
But lions are so much more than just killing rivals. That only happens from time to time, and sometimes it never happens, even for conquering or conquered males.
There's so much more about their dynamics, about how they relate to each other as brothers, with their mates, with thier sons and daughters and with their rivals than just mindless killing.
Remember they're not humans, they don't kill for the sake of killing.
They're wild lions, and lions want to live free, they want to breed to ensure they leave their mark in the only way an animal can, they want to hunt, and they want to sleep as much as they can, as only lions can.
RE: The Birmingham Males - Herekitty - 11-06-2018
Great post @Tshokwane. Nhenha at MalaMala. Image by Michael Lengel, posted November 6, 2018
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Nsuku at MalaMala. Image by Andrew Danckwerts, posted November 5, 2018
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RE: The Birmingham Males - Raj8143 - 11-06-2018
(11-05-2018, 05:20 PM)Tshokwane Wrote:how to keep signature? as u keep!!!(11-05-2018, 04:52 PM)Raj8143 Wrote: did they killed the avoca male ?
Very evidently no, as we're posting about them regularly in the lions of sabi sands thread, and the Birmingham males left the area, they didn't really fight for it.
I can see you're very obsessed about this, Raj.
But lions are so much more than just killing rivals. That only happens from time to time, and sometimes it never happens, even for conquering or conquered males.
There's so much more about their dynamics, about how they relate to each other as brothers, with their mates, with thier sons and daughters and with their rivals than just mindless killing.
Remember they're not humans, they don't kill for the sake of killing.
They're wild lions, and lions want to live free, they want to breed to ensure they leave their mark in the only way an animal can, they want to hunt, and they want to sleep as much as they can, as only lions can.
RE: The Birmingham Males - Tshokwane - 11-07-2018
(11-06-2018, 08:32 PM)Raj8143 Wrote: how to keep signature?
Edit it in your profile.
Look here: https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-how-to-edit-profile-avatar-username-data
RE: The Birmingham Males - Tshokwane - 11-07-2018
Credits to Peter Thorpe - Londolozi.
The Pursuit...
Every step this lioness took was shadowed by the male, eager to stay with her.
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RE: The Birmingham Males - Pbonz - 11-07-2018
Are the bboys still in Sabi. When I visited in September I was told they moved onto Krueger? I hope the avoca males don’t kill their cubs
RE: The Birmingham Males - vinodkumarn - 11-07-2018
(11-07-2018, 08:27 PM)Pbonz Wrote: Are the bboys still in Sabi. When I visited in September I was told they moved onto Krueger? I hope the avoca males don’t kill their cubs
They are in South sabisands
RE: The Birmingham Males - Pbonz - 11-07-2018
(06-22-2016, 09:41 AM)Gamiz Wrote: Blondie with the Styx pride 9 cubs in total 4 at the sighting Tusk .Photo saw them too great fathers the B boys are turning out to be 8 cubs were seen with a Bimingham 2 days before presumably him as he is the one staying with the Styx the most he loves them Photo Credits Dawie Jacobs to Elephant plainsHow many of these cubs survived. Does anyone have a number on how many the bboys have sired
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RE: The Birmingham Males - vinodkumarn - 11-07-2018
(11-07-2018, 11:31 PM)Pbonz Wrote:(06-22-2016, 09:41 AM)Gamiz Wrote: Blondie with the Styx pride 9 cubs in total 4 at the sighting Tusk .Photo saw them too great fathers the B boys are turning out to be 8 cubs were seen with a Bimingham 2 days before presumably him as he is the one staying with the Styx the most he loves them Photo Credits Dawie Jacobs to Elephant plainsHow many of these cubs survived. Does anyone have a number on how many the bboys have sired
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None as all of them died due to mange..
RE: The Birmingham Males - Pbonz - 11-08-2018
(11-07-2018, 11:49 PM)vinodkumarn Wrote:The bboys have no cubs or subs? Or just from these 8 from Styx?(11-07-2018, 11:31 PM)Pbonz Wrote:(06-22-2016, 09:41 AM)Gamiz Wrote: Blondie with the Styx pride 9 cubs in total 4 at the sighting Tusk .Photo saw them too great fathers the B boys are turning out to be 8 cubs were seen with a Bimingham 2 days before presumably him as he is the one staying with the Styx the most he loves them Photo Credits Dawie Jacobs to Elephant plainsHow many of these cubs survived. Does anyone have a number on how many the bboys have sired
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None as all of them died due to mange..
RE: The Birmingham Males - vinodkumarn - 11-08-2018
(11-08-2018, 01:09 AM)Pbonz Wrote:(11-07-2018, 11:49 PM)vinodkumarn Wrote:The bboys have no cubs or subs? Or just from these 8 from Styx?(11-07-2018, 11:31 PM)Pbonz Wrote:(06-22-2016, 09:41 AM)Gamiz Wrote: Blondie with the Styx pride 9 cubs in total 4 at the sighting Tusk .Photo saw them too great fathers the B boys are turning out to be 8 cubs were seen with a Bimingham 2 days before presumably him as he is the one staying with the Styx the most he loves them Photo Credits Dawie Jacobs to Elephant plainsHow many of these cubs survived. Does anyone have a number on how many the bboys have sired
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None as all of them died due to mange..
read a detail report I posted yesterday in the other thread.. Lions of sabi sands..
RE: The Birmingham Males - Herekitty - 11-08-2018
Nhenha. Image by Anthony Goldman at Londolozi, November 7, 2018
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RE: The Birmingham Males - Pbonz - 11-08-2018
So I assume Mfumo is indeed dead?
Also can someone explain the dynamics of a Lion or at least a take over.
If the bboys leave the prides like Styx and torchwod alone now, will the cubs and sub adult males all be killed by say a new coalition like the Avocas if they come. Do the Lionesses not try to fight them off to let the cubs Be part of the pride? Do the sub adults not run away? Very curious how the whole process works
RE: The Birmingham Males - Peteporker - 11-09-2018
Pbonz Wrote:So I assume Mfumo is indeed dead?
Also can someone explain the dynamics of a Lion or at least a take over.
If the bboys leave the prides like Styx and torchwod alone now, will the cubs and sub adult males all be killed by say a new coalition like the Avocas if they come. Do the Lionesses not try to fight them off to let the cubs Be part of the pride? Do the sub adults not run away? Very curious how the whole process works
I personally think mfumo is dead. There is a chance that he's alive somewhere but I think that possibility is remote though.
Usually in a take over the new male lions will kill off cubs not sired by them to force the lioness back into estrous so they can mate with the lioness. This is much quicker than waiting 2 plus years for the females to go back into estrous naturally so it makes sense for them to commit infanticide to speed up the process. This is also common with other animals so its not unique with lions only. With the sub adults and older cubs, they are usually chased away and killed too if caught. Sometimes the lioness will try to protect the sub adults, other times they are outright abandoned especially if their mothers have mated and have new cubs with the new males. Usually the outcome is bad for the sub adults if they are forced into independence at the age where they cannot hunt for themselves.
RE: The Birmingham Males - Herekitty - 11-10-2018
A male lion raises his head to check his surroundings having been fast asleep in the middle of the Sand River. Currently not flowing, the river is filled with many different species, small and large. This presents many hunting opportunities for the predators. Shortly after this, the lion walked into a thicket to finish off an impala kill that had been made earlier that morning. Image by Peter Thorpe at Londolozi November 9, 2018
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The golden hour. Golden hues covered the landscape yesterday evening after the day prior was filled with rain. Backlight on this male lion created a near halo effect. We always try, but a photo never does the true scene justice. Image by Alex Jordan at Londolozi November 9, 2018
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Nhenha. Image by Tony Goldman at Londolozi, November 8, 2018
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Tinyo. Image by Guri Østbye Johansen at MalaMala, November 9, 2018
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