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RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - lioncrazy - 12-10-2015

@majingilane i to read that about the majins 2 ended up behind kt And 2 in front could have be planned or just luck but  like you said the big picture is the end of a era that night and that was very special to catch on camera


RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - achyut - 12-10-2015

Majingilane's definitely had better strategy when they fought the 2 mapogo's. As it is proven that the lions can actually count how many other lions are they fighting with based on the roaring's. Mapogo's were just very bold and always ready for the fight. Even when they probably knew that Majingi's were more in number they clearly did not care and went for it. Salute to them, they really did live by the sword and died by the sword. Mapogo's in my view are the ultimate lion coalition. Rest in peace Mr T and KT.


RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 12-10-2015

Leopard Hills Private Game Reserve:
Three of the Majingilane males came into the West again this morning to stake their claim.

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RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - lioncrazy - 12-10-2015

Is that where the matimbas are hanging around or are the more east


RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - LionKiss - 12-10-2015

are those 2 Majingilane the same who killed Kinky Tail? they must be around 10 years old, right?
or their sons?


RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 12-10-2015

No, the Matimbas are more to the east, in Londolozi. Here's a map that can help you to realize where each coalition is dominant.
The Majingilane are in the western part, from Singita to Ulusaba(approximately). The Matimbas are in the center of Londolozi. The Birmingham males are in the north, think Elephant plains, Arathusa(that's the one below in white), simbabili(in this three they share the borders of the territory with the Majingilane, that's why the roaring competition  discussed in some previous post), Djuma and Nkorho and in the north of Mala mala. To the south, were it says Sabi Sabi, are the Charleston males as well as in the southern parts of Mala mala.

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I hope it helps.


RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - LionKiss - 12-10-2015

@Majingilane

thanks this is very informative,

how many of those sectors did the Mapogos control in their glory days?
and where did the fight with KT and the 4 majingilane took place?

thanks,

please excuse me for asking to many questions


RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Pckts - 12-11-2015

@LionKiss, you can never ask too many questions IMO.
I'm just like you, I love to know as many details as possible.
Good on you


RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 12-11-2015

Quote:how many of those sectors did the Mapogos control in their glory days?
Something like this, you can see the how the territory was divided after the split in 2008.

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After the Majingilane takeover, the Mapogos were left with only the western part, the same were the Majingilane now are dominant.

Quote:and where did the fight with KT and the 4 majingilane took place?
The fight was in Nkorho, I believe, in the north east of the Sabi sands, that's why they were able to capture it on video, the were close enough to the action.


RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - LionKiss - 12-11-2015

@Majingilane

thanks again,

Since in all those sectors there are different Prides which are protected by a Male Coalition, the vets, the Rangers, generally the people who monitor Lions life there, can realize in advance who is going to be the future dominant.

for example, if there is a pride with several male cubs protected by a strong male coalition it is more likely that these cubs will be strong and healthy and reach adulthood and when they are kicked out of the pride they could become a dominant force in one of the neighboring sectors.
of course there are many uncertainties but the experts there can somehow speculate who is going to be the next dominant of a sector. Right?


RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - achyut - 12-11-2015

(12-10-2015, 10:09 PM)Majingilane Wrote: No, the Matimbas are more to the east, in Londolozi. Here's a map that can help you to realize where each coalition is dominant.
The Majingilane are in the western part, from Singita to Ulusaba(approximately). The Matimbas are in the center of Londolozi. The Birmingham males are in the north, think Elephant plains, Arathusa(that's the one below in white), simbabili(in this three they share the borders of the territory with the Majingilane, that's why the roaring competition  discussed in some previous post), Djuma and Nkorho and in the north of Mala mala. To the south, were it says Sabi Sabi, are the Charleston males as well as in the southern parts of Mala mala.

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I hope it helps.
A very informative map. Thanks for posting this mate.


RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 12-11-2015

Quote:of course there are many uncertainties but the experts there can somehow speculate who is going to be the next dominant of a sector. Right?
Well, there is always a lot of especulation in that case. For example, the Majingilane now are in the final stages of their reign. But they are still four, they are still strong and any new coalition will need good timing and, in my opinion numbers.
So, if we look at the Birmingham males, they have the numbers and there is always the question if there is going to be a big fight among both coalitions, or if eventually they will be dominant. And we don't know.
But yes, based on what is going on or in the appearance of a new coalition, people always especulate in who is going to be the final winner. Sometimes you might be right, sometimes not, who knows?


RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - LionKiss - 12-11-2015

it seems that the Birmingham boys play it safe, they know that the sooner or later the Majingilane will come to the end of their biological circle and they will be dominant if they go after Majingilane Prides with no big effort or sacrifice.

it is amazing though that the 4 Majings that killed Kinky Tail are still around and strong, this proves that they are smart boys, what Prides do they have under their protection? Their sons must be around adulthood by now.


RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 12-11-2015

Quote:what Prides do they have under their protection? Their sons must be around adulthood by now. 
Right now, they are dominant over the Othawa pride, they have three young cubs and I read that one of the females might be pregnant. 

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The Mhangeni pride, with whom they have 9 sub-adults(6 females and 3 males) and one of the females recently also gave birth but I'm not sure how many cubs she has.
Here is one of the males.

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An old pic when they were little cubs, from 2013

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To the east, a pride were they were dominant but stopped visiting is the Tsalala pride, were three subadults males live, they're around two years old, I don't know about female cubs though.

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Then you have the young Sparta males, two of them are together in the south of the sabi sands, and the third Sparta male is with the Mhangeni pride with his three step-brothers.

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Then you have the two Styx males, that now are adult and went into the Kruger after the arrival of the Matimbas.

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And the oldest of their offsprings is the Fourways males with the orange eyes, who was expelled with his partner by the Charleston males.

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RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 12-11-2015

Singita:
As nightfall descends over the bushveld, a male lions listens carefully to the distant calls of another lion announcing his territorial status.
(Grant Pengilly, Field Guide @ Singita Sabi Sand)


Scar Nose 

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