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Girth Comparaison of Animals - P.T.Sondaica - 03-23-2018
Tiger have more muscle than bear..so in same size tiger is more strong than brown/grizly bear? (Tiger memiliki otot yang kuat dari coklat beruang dalam ukuran yang sama?)
Edit: Sanjay
This thread has been renamed and the most discussion is around Chest girth of Carnivora
RE: JUST QUEST - sanjay - 03-23-2018
If possible post in in English so that most of us can understand
Should be start a section on wildfact for Indonesian ?
JUST QUEST - P.T.Sondaica - 03-24-2018
Tiger have more muscle than bear..so in same size tiger is more strong than brown/grizly bear?
RE: JUST QUEST - Polar - 03-28-2018
(03-24-2018, 05:12 AM)P.T.Sondaica Wrote: Tiger have more muscle than bear..so in same size tiger is more strong than brown/grizly bear?
No, it is much harder than that. Different morphological forms and molecular muscular differences dominate here. I find that bears are stronger than tigers in most aspects (due to thicker back, neck, shoulders, arms, etc...), but tigers are stronger in regards to bite force and (probably) pulling strength since they have greater elasticity in their back (with weaker back muscles, but still) and equally flexible hip region.
In fact, muscle percentage is the smallest portion of what makes up the difference between big cats and bears. Muscle percentage starts to matter more if the animals are more similar in form.
RE: JUST QUEST - P.T.Sondaica - 03-28-2018
Where data?
RE: JUST QUEST - Spalea - 03-28-2018
(03-28-2018, 06:14 AM)Polar Wrote:(03-24-2018, 05:12 AM)P.T.Sondaica Wrote: Tiger have more muscle than bear..so in same size tiger is more strong than brown/grizly bear?
No, it is much harder than that. Different morphological forms and molecular muscular differences dominate here. I find that bears are stronger than tigers in most aspects (due to thicker back, neck, shoulders, arms, etc...), but tigers are stronger in regards to bite force and (probably) pulling strength since they have greater elasticity in their back (with weaker back muscles, but still) and equally flexible hip region.
In fact, muscle percentage is the smallest portion of what makes up the difference between big cats and bears. Muscle percentage starts to matter more if the animals are more similar in form.
@Polar: I can sum up by telling that bears are physically stronger, whereas tigers (and lions) are more armed to kill theirs preys (bite force, retractable claws, better suppleness and agility) ?
RE: JUST QUEST - P.T.Sondaica - 03-28-2018
I need data
RE: JUST QUEST - Rishi - 03-28-2018
(03-24-2018, 05:12 AM)P.T.Sondaica Wrote: Tiger have more muscle than bear...
Where did you get this from?
RE: JUST QUEST - P.T.Sondaica - 03-28-2018
Polar say to me @Rishi
RE: JUST QUEST - Rishi - 03-28-2018
(03-28-2018, 12:57 PM)P.T.Sondaica Wrote: Polar say to me @Rishi
@Polar??
As far as i know Tigers' bite-force isn't stronger either, than that of Browns & Grizzlies.
RE: JUST QUEST - P.T.Sondaica - 03-28-2018
Wow how psi bite of jaguar Rishi
RE: JUST QUEST - brotherbear - 03-28-2018
Just as with cats, some bear species are pound-for-pound stronger than others. Polar bear and grizzly at the pinnacle.
RE: JUST QUEST - Rishi - 03-28-2018
(03-28-2018, 02:37 PM)P.T.Sondaica Wrote: Wow how psi bite of jaguar Rishi
Ohhhh... my apologies. It's not an absolute value... Their's is highest pound for pound. I overlooked it!
Anyways the values comes something like this...
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(03-28-2018, 03:15 PM)brotherbear Wrote: Just as with cats, some bear species are pound-for-pound stronger than others. Polar bear and grizzly at the pinnacle.
Amongst the bears it's the Sun bears that have highest pound4pound bite-force!
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RE: JUST QUEST - P.T.Sondaica - 03-28-2018
Ok @
RE: JUST QUEST - brotherbear - 03-28-2018
(03-28-2018, 03:33 PM)P.T.Sondaica Wrote: Ok @brotherbearin same size who more strong grizlly/alaskan vs polar bear?
I would lay claim that pound-for-pound, the grizzly. He often spends his days overturning logs and boulders. The shoulder hump is in evolutionary response to about one million years of digging and sometimes excavating huge cavernous holes in hard ground usually riddled with rocks and tough roots. That same shoulder hump reinforces the grizzly's upper-body strength. The grizzly has a shorter more robust neck with a larger broader skull.
I have heard that the polar bear has larger arms; although I have neither read any data nor seen any comparisons as evidence of this. I believe that between the two biggest bears, it is a close contest.
The bite-force issue, between the grizzly and the tiger has yet to be resolved on the site. However, my nickel would be on the tiger.