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Felids Interactions - Intraspecific Conflicts

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(01-11-2017, 07:02 AM)Majingilane Wrote: Credits to Lou Waldock Photography.

Lion Brothers having a serious discussion. Ndutu, Tanzania.

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I remember when people used to say that lions couldn't fight like this.
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(01-12-2017, 05:03 AM)Siegfried Wrote: I remember when people used to say that lions couldn't fight like this.

The funny thing in this sense is that in a 1 vs 1, all cats are going to fight more or less the same.

Here, particularly, the bipedal stance is used because they're brothers and the fight is not going to be all real.
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Of course they can @Siegfried
An upright fighting style is preferred if the option is available, the goal is to gain the higher ground and come down on top of the opponent, even when you see two "bear hugging" each other in the Bipedal stance, it almost always leads to one throwing the other to the ground, this is called Judo in martial arts. When a lion is fighting multiple combatants it does him no good to raise up, raising up now creates an easier target and his balance isn't as good, being knocked down with multiple attackers isn't desirable, fighting off their back is preferred/or used only in a 1 v 1 situation, fighting off their back against multiple attackers leaves too many openings.
This fighting adaption has been perfected by lions while tigers haven't had to perfect such a style so they prefer the style of fighting on two legs, since they will usually only be dealing with 1 combatant and that is the more desirable technique in that situation. But either way, that is just the beginning, when fights between two cats become serious it's almost always once they are engaged in close combat. Once they have latched on, they started ripping and biting, and that is when the battle gets serious.
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Shergarh at Kanha Tiger Reserve

Jan 2015
The dominant Mukki male and the challenger meeting by the side of the road...

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^^ "I have the high ground!"  Lol
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Visual Quotient - Photography by Shreeram M V
A moment that I'll cherish for a lifetime. What a sight it was watching these huge muscular tigers walking together in Bandhavgarh, sizing each other up.

More on my Bandhavgarh experience - http://www.darter.in/bandhavgarh-tour-report-may-2015/

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One of my favorite images of Bheem and Jobhi from Bandhavgarh. Right after this, Bheem continued on and fought Bamera and injured him.
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A Great Lesson for Us From the Natural World Was Observed Today Morning - "If your Back is Bent Only Then Someone Will Climb on It , So Stand Up Straight & No One Will Ever Climb on It".
Today's Face-off Between Mutksaur & His Brave Opponent, Bhola May Have Been a Warning Call for the Latter. However, Bhola Stood is Ground & Didn't Back-off From the Scene!!!
Mutkasur Vs. Maya's Son Bhola
Tadoba Andhari Tiger Reserve
India


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Mutkasur Male Vs. Maya's Sub-Adult Son Bhola
Tadoba Andhari Tiger Reserve
India

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No Way...It's Easy to Win a Fight If Your Successor is Twice Your Size...All You Can Do is to Stand Your Ground & Defend Yourself...A Brilliant Lesson From the Natural World!!!
Mutkasur Male Vs. Maya's Male Cub
Tadoba Andhari Tiger Reserve
India

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I'm No Loser...I'm a Big Badass Male Tiger...Keep That in Mind!!!
Tadoba Andhari Tiger Reserve
India

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This is No Sibling Fight!!!
It's a One-on-One Fight Between Mutkasur Male & Maya's Son Bhola at Pandherpauni Waterhole 2
Tadoba Andhari Tiger Reserve
India



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here is the Video

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Matkasur Vs Bhola (Maya Sub adult male cub)... Enjoy thrillingly experience.. forwarded from whatsapp... No idea about whose video.. but enjoy...





As you can see, Bhola is fighting for his life, defending himself from the much larger, mature Male.
Bhola is only 1.5 years old or so and is about the same size as his mother, the fact that he defended himself so well speaks volumes for him, but he'd be better served to abandon territory now as this won't be the end, it was more of a warning to leave. Bhola was able to smash Matkasur's nose which may have deterred him for the time being but it would be long until he's back.
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Credits to Marlon du Toit.

An incredible sighting recently enjoyed in Hwange, Zimbabwe. 

The male to the right completely dominated his sub-adult son. The power displayed is simply incredible, and the young prince had no choice but to bow to his dad.


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A Serious Catfight Usually Not Seen on TV...Mutkasur Male Vs. Maya's Son at Pandherpauni Waterhole
Tadoba Andhari Tiger Reserve
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Indrajeet Samarth Some say bhola won some say matkasur won, please tell me who really won??


Anjan Lal Mutkasur won the fight...not Bhola. Bhola fought back but left the scene afterwards & wasn't sighted this morning. Mutkasur warned Bhola that he shouldn't be seen at Pandherpauni ever again. Hopefully, that summarises the entire story for you!
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Credits to Kerry Murphy.

Two males in a territorial fight at Chitabe in the Okavango Delta, Botswana.

The fight starts around the 3.00 minute mark.



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Credits to WildFilmsIndia.

Leopards fighting on a (Sterculia?) tree at Panna National Park, Madhya Pradesh, India. This video footage was shot by Shyamendra Singh and Howard Buffett of the United States (he of the Buffett family fame). Howard is active in conservation in both India and Africa... Shyamendra Singh of Ken River Lodge was hosting Mr. Buffett when this encounter was viewed on a trip into the park.


Wilderness Films India is grateful to and Shyamendra and Mr. Buffett for providing this video for our India archive!



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matkasur and bhola
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Credits to Mala Mala.

Bicycle Crossing Male vs Emsagwen male (father of the Anderson male). 

Date: August 2009.

Bicycle Crossing male leopard , Emsagwen male, Manyelethi male and Ostrich Koppies female – 14 August 2009 


A simple sighting of a hyena kicked off one of the most intense sightings of the year.

The hyena was trailing the Bicycle Crossing male. The leopard was moving north along Piccadilly Triangle, and roaring and scent marking as he went. As this notoriously large male reached Mlowathi Koppies, the Emsagwen male leopard emerged from the night. This younger male was walking the exact same path, some fifty meters behind the Bicycle Crossing male – salivating and growling.

Both leopards headed slowly into the koppies. Another ranger arriving at the sighting, discovered the Manyelethi male leopard sitting at Mlowathi Crossing – looking on as the other two passed right by him.

With three big male leopards in the area, the scene was set for fireworks.

Deciding that the two younger males were more than he could handle, the Manyelethi male slunk off up the Mlowathi River, roaring his disgust at having his territory invaded. In the meantime the other two leopards had moved deep into Mlowathi Koppies, and we had to loop around the rocky outcrop in order to relocate them. En route we “bumped into” a fresh impala kill hanging in a tree, which was being closely guarded by the Ostrich Koppies female.

The Bicycle Crossing male appeared at the base of the tree (which had momentarily been vacated by the female), climbed up and immediately began feeding on the carcass.
In the interim the Emsagwen male had moved north of the tree with the kill in it, and was lying down growling and salivating profusely. The Bicycle Crossing male ate sparingly before descending the tree to take up guard ten paces from the Emsagwen male.
The Ostrich Koppies female (having come to the conclusion that these two males needed some space) wisely abandoned her kill and disappeared into the darkness – moving north away from the battle zone.

The two males then squared up and faced each other – a lot of growling, snarling and hissing followed, which was interspersed with the pair scent marking all over the rocks and bushes. They did some parallel walking and then lay in the grass, still trading growls with one another.

The sighting came to an end when dinner called.

Emsagwen male leopard and Bicycle Crossing male – 15 August 2009

Following up on last night’s sighting, we found the two males still locked in their territorial battle. It looked as though both of them had fed off the carcass, but their main focus was still on the battle at hand.


They were up early in the morning to carry on with their parallel walking – while still continuously growling, snarling and spitting at each other at every opportunity.
They both began to jog, slowed down, then sped up again. With neither cat giving an inch, they made a complete circle back to the area of the carcass and both lay down in the shade – still growling.

About 30 minute – and much growling and scent marking – later, they got up again and parallel walked some more, slowly at first with much stopping to rest in the shade. At this point the Emsagwen male was on the road and the Bicycle Crossing male on the ridge above him.

Both leopards started jogging, which quickly turned into an all out sprint. They angled toward each other – and with a mighty leap of 160 kilograms of pure muscle – made contact. The cats crashed into each other and immediately went for the head and neck area. Teeth bared and claws outstretched, they came to the ground in a death lock – each trapped in the grasp of the other.

After several seconds the lock was broken and they pulled apart. The Bicycle Crossing male twisted onto his feet first, and turned and pushed off in one movement in order to catch the Emsagwen male off guard. But his deft opponent saw him coming, and leapt backwards to avoid the head-on assault. The Bicycle Crossing male aimed straight for the throat – canines already glistening with blood -but the Emsagwen male sprang backwards and managed to raise a paw up in time to meet the face of his adversary.

Both leopards tumbled over, but the Emsagwen male – having twisted out of the grip of the Bicycle Crossing male – landed on top and set about slicing open the neck and cheek of the Bicycle Crossing male. Rising up on his hind legs, the Bicycle Crossing male retaliated by raking the face of the Emsagwen male. Three hyenas in the area came running in as soon as the two cats started fighting. Both leopards were preoccupied by the task at hand, and completely ignored them. This didn’t deter the spectators, who sat in their ring side seats egging on the fighters with their sickly laughs.



When either leopard was thrown to the ground, the hyenas would run in, nipping at the downed gladiator and forcing him up and back into the fight. Baying for blood, the scavengers watched as the two leopards thrashed about with swinging limbs, snarling at each other, blood pouring from gashes and dripping from bared teeth. The Bicycle Crossing male (caught on the ground) pulled back, and the two males then circled each other – snarling and hissing insults across the arena. The Emsagwen male then launched his counter attack, smashing head first into the Bicycle Crossing male.

Catching the Emsagwen male mid-air, the Bicycle Crossing male bit deep into the neck of the younger male, and hung on for life. Having thrown his opponent off balance, the Emsagwen male was able to negotiate an equally secure grip on the Bicycle Crossing male’s neck. Both leopards then fell to the ground with their teeth still sunk into the opposition’s neck, and their claws furiously raking the head and flanks of the other.


Neither would give any ground, and neither had any intent on loosening their grip for power. The leopards untangled themselves from their ball of fury long enough to stare at each other. Snarling they both took off – once again walking parallel to one another.

The battle was over, but who had won?

The war hadn’t finished yet, and the two predators lay down ten paces apart, still snarling and growling. Both had blood pouring out of various wounds, and as they lay down to rest, they cleaned themselves – still keeping a watchful eye on one another. The hyenas, not having had the opportunity to take advantage of the fight, left the area. When we finally left the leopards they were about ten paces apart and still growling, with neither one showing any sign of surrendering.

When we returned in the afternoon only the Emsagwen male was still in the area of the carcass, although the following morning only the Bicycle Crossing male was there.

Who had won the fight? Only time will tell.

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It was a long time that i wanted to share it, thank you Tshokwane. This is one of those that can be defined an "epic encounter", two beasts. Beautiful.
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@Pckts few yesrs ago (2013..i think) a few images of a confrontation of t-24 & t-34 surfaced... 
As far as i remember, u were posted them..not sure if it's here..
If u did, then could you plz share them again!!!
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