(11-21-2022, 03:54 AM)Styx38 Wrote: @AndresVida

@Luipaard

Hey guys how big do you think is this Gabon male?

Is he over 70kg?

The Leopard could possibly be 75+ kg. I would not be surprised that the Leopard is 80+ kg.

The Congo Leopard looks comparable to Okonjima Leopards.


Gabon male

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Okonjima Male

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They both look comparable to Mawenzi, an 82 kg Namibian male.

(11-23-2022, 02:12 PM)Mwk85 Wrote: Probably a long shot but has anyone seen or read any news on a young male leopard named Roho? He's from the Maasai Mara National Park in Kenya. I recall him being seen earlier this year possibly in June/July but nothing since.

(11-23-2022, 11:08 PM)Luipaard Wrote:

(11-23-2022, 02:12 PM)Mwk85 Wrote: Probably a long shot but has anyone seen or read any news on a young male leopard named Roho? He's from the Maasai Mara National Park in Kenya. I recall him being seen earlier this year possibly in June/July but nothing since.

No recent sightings unfortunately. He was last seen near human villages so anything could've happened. His life is a sad story and yet he was doing fine despite all the odds. He had to become an independent male at a very young age, way too young after his mother died due to lions. He started to hunt mongoose and became very successful at it, later he shifted to gazelle and even survived a lioness attack with minor injuries. A true survivor.

(11-22-2022, 08:42 PM)Luipaard Wrote:

(11-21-2022, 03:54 AM)Styx38 Wrote: @AndresVida

@Luipaard

Hey guys how big do you think is this Gabon male?

Is he over 70kg?

The Leopard could possibly be 75+ kg. I would not be surprised that the Leopard is 80+ kg.

The Congo Leopard looks comparable to Okonjima Leopards.


Gabon male

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Okonjima Male

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They both look comparable to Mawenzi, an 82 kg Namibian male.

While it's hard to judge because there's nothing to scale to, one cannot ignore his bulkiness. He does look at least equal to Madiba at first sight (the first Okonjima male you posted, who weighed 76kg).

Leopards from the equatorial forests of Central Africa are underrated. Some focus on the few weights there is available (snared individuals) while ignoring their maximum-sized skulls who are lioness-sized. There's also the footage which almost constantly demonstrates robust males. The following male from Gabon is the first male leopard ever caught on a camera trap in Gabon and to this day he remains one of the most robust individuals I've ever seen:

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Again it's hard to judge his size (i.e. frame) due to nothing to scale him with. But humans and these leopards have been caught on the same camera trap in the past. Courtesy of Chui:

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According to Chui, the man is 170cm tall and weighs 88kg. Here we can see they can possess a large frame alongside their robusteness. Also look at the man's hand and compare it to the wide skull and massive muzzle in the first photo.

(11-30-2022, 03:29 AM)Styx38 Wrote:

(11-22-2022, 08:42 PM)Luipaard Wrote:

(11-21-2022, 03:54 AM)Styx38 Wrote: @AndresVida

@Luipaard

Hey guys how big do you think is this Gabon male?

Is he over 70kg?

The Leopard could possibly be 75+ kg. I would not be surprised that the Leopard is 80+ kg.

The Congo Leopard looks comparable to Okonjima Leopards.


Gabon male

*This image is copyright of its original author

Okonjima Male

*This image is copyright of its original author

They both look comparable to Mawenzi, an 82 kg Namibian male.

While it's hard to judge because there's nothing to scale to, one cannot ignore his bulkiness. He does look at least equal to Madiba at first sight (the first Okonjima male you posted, who weighed 76kg).

Leopards from the equatorial forests of Central Africa are underrated. Some focus on the few weights there is available (snared individuals) while ignoring their maximum-sized skulls who are lioness-sized. There's also the footage which almost constantly demonstrates robust males. The following male from Gabon is the first male leopard ever caught on a camera trap in Gabon and to this day he remains one of the most robust individuals I've ever seen:

*This image is copyright of its original author

Again it's hard to judge his size (i.e. frame) due to nothing to scale him with. But humans and these leopards have been caught on the same camera trap in the past. Courtesy of Chui:

*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author

According to Chui, the man is 170cm tall and weighs 88kg. Here we can see they can possess a large frame alongside their robusteness. Also look at the man's hand and compare it to the wide skull and massive muzzle in the first photo.

I see.

Now, this may sound dumb but which of the Leopards would most likely win in a fight at parity?

1. African Forest Leopard vs. African Savannah Leopard

2. Persian Leopard vs. African Savannah Leopard

3. Persian Leopard vs. African Forest Leopard

Now I think this could go either way if these specimens are the same size, but I want to hear your thoughts on these hypothetical fights.