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RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - sanjay - 05-02-2015
Here is whole story from an eye witness from fb page of Lions of Sabi sand about the post I made related to killing of last Ximhungwe Lioness-
Quote:WARNING GRAPHIC (as you can imagine)
Rob has asked me to share the story..........
People seem to want all the details so here goes:
We were sitting in the dark watching the ximhungwe pride trying to hunt but the bright moonlight gave the young pride members away to the impala and wildebeest. The alarm calls of the disturbed herbivores attracted the attention of the two Othawa lionesses and two majingilane males that were the other side of the hill. The radio call came in that the other lions were approaching so Fred, Okker and myself waited with the ximhungwe as they regrouped after their hunt. For a while nothing happened and I moved back to the road to find the two othawas stalking towards the ximhungwe. All the vehicles turned off the lights and we waited. The othawas could be seen easily in the moonlight as the started running into the clearing towards the others. As we followed the lionesses the two males also came out of the tree line. The younger ximhungwe lions ran as the older lioness stayed to face the oncoming lionesses. The two males ran after the youngsters as the othawas first hesitated before attacking the older ximhungwe lioness who was already limping. One male returned to the action and broke up the fight allowing the ximhungwe lioness to run off. Th othawas gave chase with the male behind them. Catching up with the limping lioness the othawas attacked again and took her to the ground. The male again tried to intervene but the injured lioness lashed out at him too causing him to retaliate and put her in a strangle hold. The second majingilane (dark mane) then returned and pulled his brother off the dying lioness and gave him a beating but by that time it was too late. her back was broken and she was losing blood fast. We left them as she lay dying, her would be rescuer roaring softly beside her.
You can feel the feeling the story have, Too sad.
Source and credit to Lions of Sabi sand fb page
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - sanjay - 05-02-2015
Tribute and a brief history by Lions of sabi sand fb page to the killed lioness from Ximhungwe pride
Quote:R.I.P. Long Tail Ximhungwe lioness..... The LAST Ximhungwe lioness. Born the end of 2004. Killed today by the Othawa pride & a Majingilane male.
You gave your life today staying back & letting the subs get away.
She leaves behind her own 2 female subs born mid November 2012.
She's also been caring for the other orphaned subs....
1 sub born mid Nov 2012 - female (Mom is Short Tail)
1 one male sub born January 2013 (Mom was Ravenscourt female).
The Short Tail Ximhungwe lioness was killed April 8 ...only weeks ago by the Othawa pride.
Travel well brave girl. Your pride awaits you. I can imagine the headbutts between you, dear old Kokwana, Queen, The Ravenscourt & Short Tail....along with all the many youngsters lost over the years.
We wish you well....rest easy. Rest in Peace.
Credit to Lions of Sabi sand FB page
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 05-02-2015
(05-02-2015, 11:18 AM)'sanjay' Wrote: Here is whole story from an eye witness from fb page of Lions of Sabi sand about the post I made related to killing of last Ximhungwe Lioness-
Quote:WARNING GRAPHIC (as you can imagine)
Rob has asked me to share the story..........
People seem to want all the details so here goes:
We were sitting in the dark watching the ximhungwe pride trying to hunt but the bright moonlight gave the young pride members away to the impala and wildebeest. The alarm calls of the disturbed herbivores attracted the attention of the two Othawa lionesses and two majingilane males that were the other side of the hill. The radio call came in that the other lions were approaching so Fred, Okker and myself waited with the ximhungwe as they regrouped after their hunt. For a while nothing happened and I moved back to the road to find the two othawas stalking towards the ximhungwe. All the vehicles turned off the lights and we waited. The othawas could be seen easily in the moonlight as the started running into the clearing towards the others. As we followed the lionesses the two males also came out of the tree line. The younger ximhungwe lions ran as the older lioness stayed to face the oncoming lionesses. The two males ran after the youngsters as the othawas first hesitated before attacking the older ximhungwe lioness who was already limping. One male returned to the action and broke up the fight allowing the ximhungwe lioness to run off. Th othawas gave chase with the male behind them. Catching up with the limping lioness the othawas attacked again and took her to the ground. The male again tried to intervene but the injured lioness lashed out at him too causing him to retaliate and put her in a strangle hold. The second majingilane (dark mane) then returned and pulled his brother off the dying lioness and gave him a beating but by that time it was too late. her back was broken and she was losing blood fast. We left them as she lay dying, her would be rescuer roaring softly beside her.
You can feel the feeling the story have, Too sad.
Source and credit to Lions of Sabi sand fb page
So it wasn't just that the males tried to kill her, the story now makes more sense. In one of the comments in the facebook page, I read that the Ottawas have new cubs, which can explain their territorial behaviour.
At least the boys tried to help her..
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - vizions - 05-02-2015
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"The Scar-nosed Majingilane together with his brother march through the northern sector of the Sabi Sands after the two young Styx males who, together with the Fourways males, made an appearance in the north presumably after hearing the calls of one of the Breakaway females who is clearly coming into heat. She is currently mating with one of the Fourways males at the moment. All the commotion attracted the two large Matimba's who, with their defiant roars, managed to vacate the two Majingi's who were trying to catch the Styx males themselves... "
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - sanjay - 05-02-2015
Wow, look like gang war may erupt. I don't know much about other coalition but reading your post, I guess Styx and Fourways males may make coalition to gang up staging Majingilane Male Lions
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - vizions - 05-02-2015
Styx(2) and Fourways(2) are both sons of Majins. Fourways were a coalition of 3 but lost a member to the Matimbas last summer. They are half brother but i don't think they will make a coaliton of 4 together. Would be the best moove for them, but they don't know that.
I don't think the Majins will kill their sons, but could give them a good beating. The matimbas will probably kill the Styx/Fourways if they find them.
Interesting information is that the Majin's don't want to engage the Matimbas in a 2v2 brawl.
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - sanjay - 05-02-2015
Yes, As you guys told Matimbas are bigger lions when compared to Majins. I guess they can guess this.
Majins Are smart, They generally attack when they outnumbered their opponents.
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 05-02-2015
Yes, you are both right. I think that part of territory in which they all were is now Matimba territory, so it makes sense the Majingilane don't want to risk open war for a territory that's not their own.
Now, what I find interesting is that both Fourways and Styx are clearly showing interest in the breakaway female, and I'm sure that if the Matimba males find them, there will be trouble.
As for what you asked @sanjay about the brothers forming a bigger coalition, @vizions is right, I asked one of the people who works in londolozi if this could happen, and he said that it's not likely that will happen, mostly because they grew up in separate prides and spent too much time apart. However he also said that wild animals don't follow a script of how they should act, so anything can happen.
It really is amazing how complex their lives are, especially in change times like this.
Fourways males
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Styx males
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Majingilane males
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RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Pantherinae - 05-02-2015
I'm not surprised that the majingilane would avoid the matimbas now because both coallitions does already have territories. Would probably be different if the matimbas would try to take over their territory or if the majingilane where seaching for a territory!
I agree with @vizions I highly doubt the styx and fourways coallitions would join forces, because they now are nearly mature, but maybe if they where younger they could have formed a coalition!
Great reading you're post guy's :-)
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Pckts - 05-03-2015
Thanks guys, its nice to finally have some lion experts who are able to bring individuals to the forefront, great to hear these stories. TFS
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 05-06-2015
With the subadult male killed the other day, many people talked about how they are "evil".
I wanted to show how this action of killing young males serves the coalition in the future.
It was 2012 and three of the Majingilane encountered three new males and chased them. Somehow they caught one of them and gave him a good beating.
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They took it easy and stayed around while the young male licked his wounds, until a herd of elephants saw the lions and chased them off.
Of course, the lions fled and the young male ran in the opposite direction, trying to find his brothers.
How lucky he was! He was beaten of course...
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but at least he was alive..
The funny part in this is that this males and his brothers grew stronger and older and finally expelled the Kruger male from his territory.
They are now the Sand river males.
Dark mane male.He's the dominant male.
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Blonde male, the second in command.
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Bent Spine male(you can see a little bump in his back, this is the male that survived the attack of the Majingilane)
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This was a story with a "happy ending", at least for the Sand river males, but I think it shows how important for male lions is to wipe out the competition when they have the chance. By failing to do it, now the Majingilane face a threat from this younger males, at least for a part of their territory(mostly in the londolozi area) that is somewhat abandoned by the Majingilane, but one never knows what will happen.
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - sanjay - 05-06-2015
@"Majingilane" , Wow thats awesome story.
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 05-07-2015
Thank you @sanjay, I'm glad you like it.
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - strana - 05-09-2015
Ok, the lion is not as beautiful, fast, quick and agile as the other big cats.
Ok, lions are, if I am not completely wrong, the weakest ( pound for pound) among the big cats. I can even imagine a large Pantanal male jaguar defeating a lioness or defending himself succesfully against an attack from a small/average lion.
In my opinion, however, lion´s social life make this animal the most fascinating and interesting of all members of the vast felids family. It is really amazing to read all stories about Notch Boys, Mapogos, etc...
Thanks for all, specially "Majingilane", for some really nice pics and info !!
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 05-09-2015
Thank you @strana
Growing up, lions were always in the last places of the animals I liked. When I was a kid I always liked tigers, ants and spiders. Then when I was around 11 I read a book called "Gorillas in the mist" by Dian Fossey. I was amazed by the power of the males, the Silverbacks, and how gentle they were with their families.
Then, I don't remember when exactly, but near my twenties I started to read and watch many documentaries about leopards. I confess, I never liked this felines and sometimes I mocked them, thinking that they were cowards and things like that. But slowly, from reading and reading about them I started to like them, to a point where I liked them even more than tigers(even tough I know they are very similar).
Months ago, reading about leopards in a blog they also uploaded a lot of pictures of leopards and also lions.
So I started to save them in my computer, creating a folder for the leopards and the others, the ones with the lions, I just saved them because they were cool pics, but that was all.
Until I found this:
That was the first lion fight I saw. Yes, you always hear about lion fights and in the tv they always show that small clip of the two males, but what I didn't know it was like that. The way of the gang, one vs two or three or four. Tv and documentaries try to sell us the nice story of the lone, noble king that doesn't hunt but protects his pride..but this was real. This was the true life out there and it was so interesting that I started to read all I could about male lions, about the coalitions they form and how tough their lives are. And also how lucky we are to still have them in our planet.
Facebook and youtube help, but I think a place like this forum is the best place to learn, at least from a distance, about this magnificent animals and to talk with each other about them.