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RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Pantherinae - 05-09-2015
@strana well it's hard to say if lions are the weakest pound for pound, I do not think so, I would actually say the leopard is the weakest, I've seen lionesses kill adult buffalo cow's, and female leopards rarely hunts larger animal's than impala. And struggles with larger prey usually.
I think all cat's are quite equal in strength, Lions have beaten tigers in fight's, and they are a smaller cat in general, so there can't be huge differences in strength.
A large make jaguar would definitely be able to defend himself against a lioness, but defeating is another question. But nothing would surprise me about Jaguars.
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Spalea - 05-09-2015
@"Majingilane" : male lions was always my favourite feline. Even if I can easily acknowledge that tigers are more "plastically perfect", it was always so. Why ? Perhaps simply because of its walk, wind through the name, proud... That is purely, completely unconditionnal.
Perhaps too because of this fight from the Frederic Rossif's movie "Sauvage et beau", ("Wild and beautiful").
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvoyMq84GO0
Schaller wrote in his book "The Serengeti lion" that this was impossible to see an adult male lion without scars or grazes on its face. Male lions' life is very intense. I believe we speak about the big feline whose life in wild is the shortest. Because of the struggle for the power. Of course the solitary feline have also a territory to protect, to keep safe for intrusions. But the male lions being able to cooperate in gangs are more impressive.
And yes, recently, because of you, I discovered the link you mentioned about the Majingilane male lions gang.
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Spalea - 05-09-2015
The Frederic Rossif's movie "Sauvage et beau", ("Wild and beautiful") was made in 1984.
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Pantherinae - 05-09-2015
@Spalea I agree! Before I was more in to tigers, leopards and jaguars, but now lions are my favorite, I just can't say anything else than that.
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 05-09-2015
@Spalea I saw the movie you mentioned. It's beautiful. And one of the best parts is the last one, with the lions fighting. I saw a couple times that clip you linked, but only in slow motion, never at full speed. And the final fight the two vs one fight was amazing. It's clear that lone lion had no chance to win, but even then it's very interesting how willing they are to fight.
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Spalea - 05-10-2015
@"Majingilane" : Yes, you're completely right. I am also fond of this fight, because the solitary lion which losts the fight is absolutely beautiful, more beautiful than his opponents. And because of that, the tragic aspect of this fight is reinforced, strengthened. Especially with the narrator saying that its reign is ephemeral and could be interrupted by its own son...
For the first time I feel a real fascination with a fight, with the wild violence. This was not for a movie like "A Clockwork Orange" from Stanley Kubrick or an other movie. This was for this lions fight...
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - chaos - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 03:23 AM)'Spalea' Wrote: @"Majingilane" : Yes, you're completely right. I am also fond of this fight, because the solitary lion which losts the fight is absolutely beautiful, more beautiful than his opponents. And because of that, the tragic aspect of this fight is reinforced, strengthened. Especially with the narrator saying that its reign is ephemeral and could be interrupted by its own son...
For the first time I feel a real fascination with a fight, with the wild violence. This was not for a movie like "A Clockwork Orange" from Stanley Kubrick or an other movie. This was for this lions fight...
"A Clockwork Orange". A classic cult movie if ever there was. Great flick.
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 05-11-2015
We talked a lot about lion fights this days(and don't get me wrong, I love it) but today I found this and I wanted to share it with you.
A side of a male that is not often showed.
Cubs of the Styx pride with dad Dark mane. I wouldn't be surprised if two of this little hair balls are now
the young males set on taking control of territory.
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Pckts - 05-13-2015
(05-09-2015, 06:46 AM)'Pantherinae' Wrote: @strana well it's hard to say if lions are the weakest pound for pound, I do not think so, I would actually say the leopard is the weakest, I've seen lionesses kill adult buffalo cow's, and female leopards rarely hunts larger animal's than impala. And struggles with larger prey usually.
I think all cat's are quite equal in strength, Lions have beaten tigers in fight's, and they are a smaller cat in general, so there can't be huge differences in strength.
A large make jaguar would definitely be able to defend himself against a lioness, but defeating is another question. But nothing would surprise me about Jaguars.
You may not wan't to start this debate..... We have already seen leopards take down very large prey when compared to their own body weight, same as lions or tigers. Really the one animal you don't see do this is a Jaguar, but that isn't because they cannot its simply because thats not the prey available to them. Lions and tigers being so similarly built, while I tend to think a tiger is probably the stronger one lb for lb due to the morphological differences you see exhibited in limb girth while being pretty even everywhere else, I also am realistic and have seen enough videos of lions and tigers fighting. Equal sized individuals can go either way and their strength lb for lb is probably pretty close.
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 05-15-2015
Something has changed in the last days. Maybe it's the constant roaring of both the Fourways and Styx males, but it's clear that the Majingilane males are not ready to give up their territory.
Until now, they were doing(in my opinion) a pretty good job staying together, consolidating their "new" territory taken from the Selati males and the eastern part of the territory, around londolozi, was left out. This allowed the Styx males, who were coming of age, to start gaining confidence and start roaring their new dominance over the Sparta pride. Then came into the picture the Fourways males(like the Styx, also sons of the Majingilane). This are older males and soon they were roaring all over the place and mating with one of the Breakaway females.
I thought the Majingilane were going to let it go, play it safe and keep a maybe smaller territory, but also easier to defend.
But they are male lions. And this is their territory.
One of the Styx males running, with his fathers on his tail.
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Scar Nose chasing his sons
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Hip Scar
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I think this new move is the beginning of a change in the lion dynamics. A part of me would prefer the Majingilane staying in the west, staying together. They are a little bit older now(around 10 years old) and their territory is so huge that they have no choice but to split to be able to cover it and patrol it. They are smart cats, so maybe they will patrol two and two instead of doing it alone, but the truth is that if one of them is caught alone...it will be a blood bath.
But they are the kings now and no one, young sons or not, will take what is theirs by right without a fight.
This is the life of a male lion. Live by the sword, Die by the sword.
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RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Nelson12 - 05-18-2015
Nice article!! Thanks for sharing such an informative post. Well I have been making some new skins for the x men characters. I need some ideas and inputs as seems to be in deadlock where nothing news coming in my mind.
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - sanjay - 05-18-2015
@Nelson12 Please do not post unrelated content here. If you are looking for something other than wildlife talk then this place is not for you and doing this again will result in permanent ban
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 05-26-2015
Here in Argentina, there is a famous book/poem called Martín Fierro, written by José Hernandez in 1872.
One of its most famous phrases is:
"Los hermanos sean unidos,
porque ésa es la ley primera;
Tengan unión verdadera
en cualquier tiempo que sea,
porque si entre ellos pelean
los devoran los de ajuera."
Translation is not easy, but I'll give it a try:
"Brothers be united because that is the first law;
have they a truthfull union
any time it may be,
bacause if they fight among themselves
will they be devoured by those from outside.[font]"[/font]
My point with all this is show one of the things that makes male lions different from other cats. And that is the strong, amazing bond that exists between coalition mates. They effectively become brothers, even when they are not related by blood.
In this case, the Majingilane males are natural brothers(to my knowledge) so here it goes, some love between brothers!
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RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - sanjay - 05-26-2015
Wow, thats soft side of tough lions
RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Spalea - 05-27-2015
@"Majingilane" : "One for all and all for one", the musketeers' slogan in the famous Alexandre Dumas's novel "Les 4 mousquetaires". Those lions had no choice: they were fraternally united.